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	<title>Comments on: Ah, sweet hubris</title>
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	<description>...making my own great leap forward...</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathanstrahan.com.au/wp/2006/03/07/ah-sweet-hubris/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect the void across we look at one another may be this: you are talking about markets, about what can be sold. I&#039;m talking about variations in form and approach for a book, irrespective of sales or market. Related, but different, things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect the void across we look at one another may be this: you are talking about markets, about what can be sold. I&#8217;m talking about variations in form and approach for a book, irrespective of sales or market. Related, but different, things.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Wallace</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathanstrahan.com.au/wp/2006/03/07/ah-sweet-hubris/comment-page-1/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not entirely too sure that short year&#039;s best anthologies are a possible way to go, if only because the market expectations have shifted, in that no one can properly read everything in the field—so the bigger the anthology the better someone can get on top of affairs. Particularly and especially if libraries and institutions are the major buyers of said anthologies, with those price points.

But it could be just as easily argued that the reasonable sales for the &quot;mass-market&quot; paperbacks would indicate an untapped market, now, with Hartwell&#039;s being the one on the shelves, so perhaps people do just want a sampling of the field. We may even be talking about two different markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not entirely too sure that short year&#8217;s best anthologies are a possible way to go, if only because the market expectations have shifted, in that no one can properly read everything in the field—so the bigger the anthology the better someone can get on top of affairs. Particularly and especially if libraries and institutions are the major buyers of said anthologies, with those price points.</p>
<p>But it could be just as easily argued that the reasonable sales for the &#8220;mass-market&#8221; paperbacks would indicate an untapped market, now, with Hartwell&#8217;s being the one on the shelves, so perhaps people do just want a sampling of the field. We may even be talking about two different markets.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathanstrahan.com.au/wp/2006/03/07/ah-sweet-hubris/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m genuinely torn on the length issue. First of all, from an overall perspective, I can buy more short fiction than pretty much anyone else. I have 210,000 words in the short novels books, and another 250,000 words across the two other year&#039;s bests. If I can&#039;t summarise my view of the best in the genre in 460,000 words I probably should be doing something else.

On a volume by volume basis, I&#039;d love more space. I could easily have stretched Best Short Novels to 300,000 words this year (I wouldn&#039;t do that to you, Andy, so relax :)), and both shorter volumes could easily have been 175,000 words.

I guess, though, that I have this feeling that the length limits may, at some level, be good for readers. If you look at the first 10 Terry Carr Year&#039;s Bests, almost every story is excellent and still remembered, and virtually every writer is still hailed today as amongst the field&#039;s best. He focussed on the best of the best, the true cream of the crop that seemed to deserve both critical acclaim, wider readership, and a good shot at entering the field&#039;s canon. I&#039;m not sure if he&#039;d had twice the space, if that would have been the case. I never had the chance to ask him such a question, but I&#039;d have been interested to hear his answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m genuinely torn on the length issue. First of all, from an overall perspective, I can buy more short fiction than pretty much anyone else. I have 210,000 words in the short novels books, and another 250,000 words across the two other year&#8217;s bests. If I can&#8217;t summarise my view of the best in the genre in 460,000 words I probably should be doing something else.</p>
<p>On a volume by volume basis, I&#8217;d love more space. I could easily have stretched Best Short Novels to 300,000 words this year (I wouldn&#8217;t do that to you, Andy, so relax :)), and both shorter volumes could easily have been 175,000 words.</p>
<p>I guess, though, that I have this feeling that the length limits may, at some level, be good for readers. If you look at the first 10 Terry Carr Year&#8217;s Bests, almost every story is excellent and still remembered, and virtually every writer is still hailed today as amongst the field&#8217;s best. He focussed on the best of the best, the true cream of the crop that seemed to deserve both critical acclaim, wider readership, and a good shot at entering the field&#8217;s canon. I&#8217;m not sure if he&#8217;d had twice the space, if that would have been the case. I never had the chance to ask him such a question, but I&#8217;d have been interested to hear his answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to echo Ellen. If my editors (or myself) had more to work with we would certainly include a lot more. I found it annoying hitting a ceiling, personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to echo Ellen. If my editors (or myself) had more to work with we would certainly include a lot more. I found it annoying hitting a ceiling, personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt there&#039;ll be any saturation of the market any time soon, when you consider that there aren&#039;t any cheap trade paperbacks (or any mass market paperbacks, with the exception of Hartwell&#039;s). Perhaps there&#039;ll be a settling-out, but that&#039;s something entirely different. Year&#039;s Bests sell extremely well, so far as I can tell, so the demand is there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt there&#8217;ll be any saturation of the market any time soon, when you consider that there aren&#8217;t any cheap trade paperbacks (or any mass market paperbacks, with the exception of Hartwell&#8217;s). Perhaps there&#8217;ll be a settling-out, but that&#8217;s something entirely different. Year&#8217;s Bests sell extremely well, so far as I can tell, so the demand is there.</p>
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