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	<title>Comments on: Paper vs. electrons: Submitting stories in 2009</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff VanderMeer</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathanstrahan.com.au/wp/2009/07/06/paper-vs-electrons-submitting-stories-in-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-362331</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff VanderMeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordon--how many submissions do you get a week?

Ann gets about 250 to 300 a week for Weird Tales and has no problem with electronic submissions.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon&#8211;how many submissions do you get a week?</p>
<p>Ann gets about 250 to 300 a week for Weird Tales and has no problem with electronic submissions.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordon --

I&#039;m not offended at all, and there was no offense intended by my post.  In fact, looking back at it, my post addresses what happens at F&amp;SF, Asimov&#039;s and Analog much, much more directly than I&#039;d intended. 

It was my intention to address electronic vs. paper submissions outside the context of those three publications.   As you quite correctly say, I&#039;ve not worked for any of the Big Three and no-one in the field deals with the volume of submissions that you do.  That makes an enormous difference.

I&#039;d also happily concede that the effect of an x% increase in submissions due to shifting to electronic submissions would be far more difficult to cope with when you handle the volume that you, Sheila and Stan do.   I would say that for most everyone else - who deal with far, far fewer subs - the case is harder to maintain.

I do think there is a case to be made that electronic submissions can lead to an improvement in management, rather than a deterioration.  I also think you can deal with reading onscreen.  So, while I most likely would revise what I&#039;ve said if I had that experience, I would say that there are benefits to be had, though they very well may not be sufficient to justify a change at the offices of the Big Three (something I&#039;ve not advocated). 

-- Jonathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon &#8211;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not offended at all, and there was no offense intended by my post.  In fact, looking back at it, my post addresses what happens at F&#038;SF, Asimov&#8217;s and Analog much, much more directly than I&#8217;d intended. </p>
<p>It was my intention to address electronic vs. paper submissions outside the context of those three publications.   As you quite correctly say, I&#8217;ve not worked for any of the Big Three and no-one in the field deals with the volume of submissions that you do.  That makes an enormous difference.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also happily concede that the effect of an x% increase in submissions due to shifting to electronic submissions would be far more difficult to cope with when you handle the volume that you, Sheila and Stan do.   I would say that for most everyone else &#8211; who deal with far, far fewer subs &#8211; the case is harder to maintain.</p>
<p>I do think there is a case to be made that electronic submissions can lead to an improvement in management, rather than a deterioration.  I also think you can deal with reading onscreen.  So, while I most likely would revise what I&#8217;ve said if I had that experience, I would say that there are benefits to be had, though they very well may not be sufficient to justify a change at the offices of the Big Three (something I&#8217;ve not advocated). </p>
<p>&#8211; Jonathan</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to hear from you.  I deliberately didn&#039;t want to address my comments at the Big Three.  I think they have their own issues, and I&#039;ve not done what they do.  As always, I have enormous respect for Gordon, Sheila, Stan and their teams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to hear from you.  I deliberately didn&#8217;t want to address my comments at the Big Three.  I think they have their own issues, and I&#8217;ve not done what they do.  As always, I have enormous respect for Gordon, Sheila, Stan and their teams.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Esubs certainly make sense for me.</description>
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		<title>By: Gordon Van Gelder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Van Gelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan---

No offense intended, but your experience does not include running a magazine the size of F&amp;SF or ASIMOV&#039;S.  Your generalizations are, in my opinion, incomplete and inaccurate.  I&#039;m glad e-subs work for you and I&#039;ll be happy to listen to you tell me sometime about all their virtues, but I think that if you spent a month working in my office or in the Dell magazines offices, you&#039;d go back and revise the fifth and sixth paragraphs of your post.

---Gordon V.G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan&#8212;</p>
<p>No offense intended, but your experience does not include running a magazine the size of F&amp;SF or ASIMOV&#8217;S.  Your generalizations are, in my opinion, incomplete and inaccurate.  I&#8217;m glad e-subs work for you and I&#8217;ll be happy to listen to you tell me sometime about all their virtues, but I think that if you spent a month working in my office or in the Dell magazines offices, you&#8217;d go back and revise the fifth and sixth paragraphs of your post.</p>
<p>&#8212;Gordon V.G.</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daryl Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was trying to break in as a writer -- this goes back to the early 90&#039;s, when electrons were new -- when given the choice to submit electronically or via paper, I always chose paper, on the (probably mistaken) assumption that paper was easier to read, and my stories didn&#039;t need anything else to make them more easily rejectable. 

By the way, somebody mentioned the Scalzi piece on the F&amp;SF forums, and Gordon responded that he sticks with paper, largely because of the sheer volume of submissions he gets:

&quot;...there are several reasons and the biggest one is that there are *many* people submitting manuscripts and few of us here reading them. I remain unconvinced that we could install an electronic system that would let us handle our volume of submissions effectively.

&quot;At least once a year I speak with an editor who does take e-subs and ask them about their system, what they like about it, what they don&#039;t. Most of them don&#039;t accept submissions that are longer than 5,000 words. None of them say the volume of submissions they receive matches ours. None of them have convinced me that we could make e-subs work for us.&quot;

http://www.sfsite.com/fsf/blog/forum/topic.php?id=330&amp;replies=24#post-3923

I&#039;m not trying to stir the pot or anything, but it&#039;s an interesting discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was trying to break in as a writer &#8212; this goes back to the early 90&#8242;s, when electrons were new &#8212; when given the choice to submit electronically or via paper, I always chose paper, on the (probably mistaken) assumption that paper was easier to read, and my stories didn&#8217;t need anything else to make them more easily rejectable. </p>
<p>By the way, somebody mentioned the Scalzi piece on the F&amp;SF forums, and Gordon responded that he sticks with paper, largely because of the sheer volume of submissions he gets:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;there are several reasons and the biggest one is that there are *many* people submitting manuscripts and few of us here reading them. I remain unconvinced that we could install an electronic system that would let us handle our volume of submissions effectively.</p>
<p>&#8220;At least once a year I speak with an editor who does take e-subs and ask them about their system, what they like about it, what they don&#8217;t. Most of them don&#8217;t accept submissions that are longer than 5,000 words. None of them say the volume of submissions they receive matches ours. None of them have convinced me that we could make e-subs work for us.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfsite.com/fsf/blog/forum/topic.php?id=330&#038;replies=24#post-3923" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfsite.com/fsf/blog/forum/topic.php?id=330&#038;replies=24#post-3923</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to stir the pot or anything, but it&#8217;s an interesting discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget Coila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridget Coila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came over here via Cheryl Morgan&#039;s post and just want to say thank you for talking about this issue.
I&#039;ve been frustrated by the issue of &quot;snailmail-only&quot; policies in SF ever since I moved to China 1 1/2 years ago. I&#039;ve ranted a bit on my own blog about the near impossibility of sending a ms via postal mail to the US from here and I am so glad to see other people talking about the sheer backwardness of insisting upon such a policy in the 21st century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came over here via Cheryl Morgan&#8217;s post and just want to say thank you for talking about this issue.<br />
I&#8217;ve been frustrated by the issue of &#8220;snailmail-only&#8221; policies in SF ever since I moved to China 1 1/2 years ago. I&#8217;ve ranted a bit on my own blog about the near impossibility of sending a ms via postal mail to the US from here and I am so glad to see other people talking about the sheer backwardness of insisting upon such a policy in the 21st century.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl&#8217;s Mewsings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Electronic Submissions - A Tangent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl&#8217;s Mewsings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Electronic Submissions - A Tangent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to magazines/anthologies, and whether or not it should be allowed. Jonathan Strahan alludes to it here, and Scalzi has a rant [...]</description>
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