Battling the fickle beast that is Skype, this week Jonathan and Gary talk to Kelley Eskridge and Nicola Griffith about the recently released Nebula ballot and what it might say about SF today, Nicola’s recent novel Hild, Kelley’s novel Solitaire, science fiction as a way of reading, language, politics and a lot more. In many ways this episode isn’t so much a conversation, as what feels like the beginning of a long and interesting one to be continued at conventions and elsewhere in the future.

As always, our sincere thanks to Kelley and Nicola for making time to appear on the podcast and for being such interesting and engaging guests.  As always, we hope you enjoy the podcast!